1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,940 Previously on L .A. Law. Jane Halliday. 2 00:00:04,380 --> 00:00:05,740 Pass. Why pass? 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,660 Because she's a member of the religious right. 4 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:10,800 Wait a second. All we know is that she's a young woman who happens to believe in 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,060 God. Is that all we know? 6 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:16,379 I was involved in a prison escape of a Black Panther named Horace Washington. 7 00:00:16,660 --> 00:00:18,020 I supplied the getaway car. 8 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:22,740 This particular case will in all likelihood entail winning the trust of 9 00:00:22,740 --> 00:00:25,600 -Black Panthers to induce them to testify on our client's behalf. 10 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:28,920 Quite frankly, I think I'm in a better position to do that than Eli is. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,900 No, I just thought you and I got off on the wrong foot the other day, Mr. Shale. 12 00:00:36,980 --> 00:00:38,480 I'd like to see if we can't rectify that. 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Okay. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,060 Your guys made the arrest because it's their job to make the arrest. I fully 15 00:00:44,060 --> 00:00:45,060 understand that. 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,620 Barry is a fugitive. You saw the opportunity to bring him in. You brought 17 00:00:49,620 --> 00:00:51,480 in. I'm glad you've come to see it that way. 18 00:00:52,460 --> 00:00:56,500 What I'd like to address now is how can we dispose of this thing? 19 00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:58,520 How would you suggest we dispose of it? 20 00:00:58,980 --> 00:01:01,820 I think he should plead guilty to a lesser charge. 21 00:01:02,350 --> 00:01:05,470 And then you and I work out some sort of combination of jail time and community 22 00:01:05,470 --> 00:01:08,910 service. Uh -huh. And I should do this? 23 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:15,110 Why? Well, mainly because I think it's fair. You think it's fair? Yes, I do. 24 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:20,310 I also think that since some 25 years have passed, this is going to be a 25 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:21,310 hard case to prove. 26 00:01:21,390 --> 00:01:22,390 Okay. 27 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:24,930 As far as what's fair is concerned... 28 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:29,150 The correctional officer was killed as an indirect but proximate result of your 29 00:01:29,150 --> 00:01:30,150 client's actions. 30 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:34,570 What's fair is that he served the next 20 years of his life in prison. Now, as 31 00:01:34,570 --> 00:01:37,790 far as this case being hard to prove, let me worry about that. 32 00:01:38,030 --> 00:01:42,530 If you don't mind my asking, Mr. Shale, why all the venom? 33 00:01:43,210 --> 00:01:44,390 This is an old case. 34 00:01:44,750 --> 00:01:46,850 Let me tell you a little bit about myself, Mr. Markowitz. 35 00:01:48,330 --> 00:01:52,170 I got this job through Richard Kleindienst, who I count as one of my 36 00:01:52,170 --> 00:01:53,170 friends. 37 00:01:53,210 --> 00:01:56,990 I served proudly in the Justice Departments of John Mitchell and Edwin 38 00:01:57,090 --> 00:02:01,670 I'm sure that you, like most liberals, gleefully welcomed the fall from grace 39 00:02:01,670 --> 00:02:02,670 those men. 40 00:02:02,730 --> 00:02:05,150 I take a somewhat different view. 41 00:02:05,390 --> 00:02:07,030 And what does that have to do with this case? 42 00:02:07,290 --> 00:02:08,630 It has everything to do with this case. 43 00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:14,490 Your client was devoted to armed insurrection. He was a willing combatant 44 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:18,610 effort to undermine our way of life. Now, I view him and his comrades in arms 45 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:21,570 and the so -called 60s the same way now as I viewed them then. 46 00:02:22,010 --> 00:02:25,110 The only thing that's different is that now I've got him. And this is the 47 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:26,550 position of the Justice Department? 48 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:29,890 Or is this some sort of personal vendetta of yours? 49 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:33,430 Until Janet Reno has me removed from this case, Mr. 50 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:35,990 Markowitz, I am the Justice Department. 51 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,660 Can someone tell me who Gordon Hike is and why we paid him over $10 ,000? 52 00:04:23,020 --> 00:04:24,760 He's a security consultant, Douglas. 53 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,040 And? 54 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:30,700 And he's been hired to evaluate our situation here and recommend various 55 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:33,540 to improve our security. What is it you're worried about? What is it that 56 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:34,540 worried about? 57 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,020 I'm worried about being killed. Driving around in that Bentley wouldn't have 58 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:41,280 heightened your sense of vulnerability, would it? Lawyers get killed, Leland. 59 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,640 They get harassed. They get ambushed. 60 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:46,600 They get killed. You remember what happened up in San Francisco? It could 61 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,240 happen here. So what are you going to do, live in fear all the time? No, what 62 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,540 you do is you take precautions. Arnie's absolutely right. 63 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,800 And it's not just physical violence you have to worry about. It's your phones, 64 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,080 the mail, the security of your files. It also makes sense that if we're going to 65 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,720 do anything about it, we do it before the renovation's complete. Well, I'm not 66 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,220 so sure it makes sense at all. Before we spend another dime, I want to talk to 67 00:05:04,220 --> 00:05:05,220 this gentleman. 68 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,300 Security consultant. 69 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,640 U .S. versus Ellison. 70 00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:09,860 I'm sorry, 71 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,080 you go ahead. 72 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,720 The bail hearing is set for this morning. 73 00:05:15,020 --> 00:05:16,180 Is there a deal to be made here? 74 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,020 Not unless we get a different prosecutor assigned to the case. 75 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,380 If it remains John Shale, we're headed for trial. Let us know what happens. 76 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,599 Wheaton v. 77 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,600 Value Square. 78 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:29,820 Carl Bullen, the founder and CEO of Value Square, fired his attorneys on the 79 00:05:29,820 --> 00:05:33,240 of trial and, thanks to a formidable bit of rainmaking on the part of Leland 80 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,340 McKenzie, hired us. 81 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:38,420 The company is being sued by an ex -employee for violation of privacy and 82 00:05:38,420 --> 00:05:41,180 emotional distress related to their having had her under surveillance. 83 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Surveillance for what? 84 00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:43,910 She was having an affair. 85 00:05:43,950 --> 00:05:45,550 And you're representing the company now? 86 00:05:45,770 --> 00:05:47,410 We're representing the company, Arnie. 87 00:05:47,710 --> 00:05:52,130 I see it as exercising legitimate managerial prerogative. And with 1 ,200 88 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:55,210 all across the country, this is a client that could stand to make us a hell of a 89 00:05:55,210 --> 00:05:58,910 lot of money. Am I right, Leland? Right you are. And Kelsey, you're beautiful 90 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:02,070 when you're mercenary. Hear, hear. I'm going to need some help on this one. How 91 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:03,070 about Jane? 92 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:13,450 United States of America versus Jay Ellison. 93 00:06:14,690 --> 00:06:18,830 Mr. Rollins, I trust that you and Mr. Markowitz have decided who's handling 94 00:06:18,830 --> 00:06:20,430 case? We have, Your Honor. Good. 95 00:06:20,670 --> 00:06:23,890 Proceed. We ask that bail be set for Jay Ellison at $100 ,000. 96 00:06:24,250 --> 00:06:27,730 The United States strenuously objects to that, Your Honor. Jay Ellison has been 97 00:06:27,730 --> 00:06:31,090 a stable member of the same community for more than 15 years, Your Honor. He's 98 00:06:31,090 --> 00:06:34,790 successful garment manufacturer, and he's got two young children. And he was 99 00:06:34,790 --> 00:06:36,870 preparing to turn himself in. That's what he says now. 100 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:41,290 The truth is he had 25 years to turn himself in. We know he was about to turn 101 00:06:41,290 --> 00:06:44,590 himself in because discussions had already been initiated by my colleague, 102 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:47,950 Markowitz. You ordered that Mr. Markowitz be followed for the purpose of 103 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:48,569 an arrest. 104 00:06:48,570 --> 00:06:52,190 You think he's a flight risk, is that right, Mr. Shale? Yes, I do. If he's 105 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:55,610 convicted of these charges, he stands to lose his family, his business, and go 106 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:59,970 to prison for 20 years. That, I believe, represents a sufficient motivation for 107 00:06:59,970 --> 00:07:00,649 him to run. 108 00:07:00,650 --> 00:07:05,090 I could be wrong about this, but I have to believe that Mr. Ellison is tired of 109 00:07:05,090 --> 00:07:07,130 running. Bailiff set at $1 million. 110 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:08,670 Thank you, Your Honor. 111 00:07:09,290 --> 00:07:11,690 You put the house up, we'll have you out of here in an hour. 112 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:17,430 The whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 113 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:18,730 I do. 114 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:25,850 Mrs. Wheaton, what was your position on February 12, 1993, the day you resigned 115 00:07:25,850 --> 00:07:26,789 your job? 116 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:29,530 I managed the Value Square department store in Valencia. 117 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:33,070 Prior to your resignation, had the company given you any indication that 118 00:07:33,070 --> 00:07:34,690 were dissatisfied with your work? No. 119 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,540 I had received good to excellent job evaluations throughout my 15 -year 120 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:40,540 with Value Square. 121 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:45,940 Mrs. Wheaton, would you please describe the event that led to your resignation? 122 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,120 The district supervisor asked to meet with me and my assistant manager, Donald 123 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Ferris. During that meeting, he confronted us with a 200 -page report 124 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,160 by Company Security. 125 00:07:56,620 --> 00:07:57,940 And what was contained in this report? 126 00:07:58,580 --> 00:08:02,520 Transcripts of personal conversations Mr. Ferris and I conducted on our office 127 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,940 telephones, a very personal e -mail letter I had written, and a surveillance 128 00:08:06,940 --> 00:08:09,340 record of our movements during the previous six months. 129 00:08:09,940 --> 00:08:11,660 There were photographs as well. 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,140 And what was the import of these transcripts, surveillance reports, and 131 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:19,260 photographs? They documented a romantic relationship involving Mr. Ferris and 132 00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:20,340 myself. Mrs. Wheaton. 133 00:08:20,910 --> 00:08:24,090 Were you married to another man during your relationship with Mr. Ferris? 134 00:08:24,510 --> 00:08:27,270 Yes. I'm now in the process of getting a divorce. 135 00:08:27,490 --> 00:08:30,250 What, if anything, were you told during this meeting? 136 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:34,630 We were told that Value Square prohibited relationships between 137 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:36,929 urged to end the affair. And how did you respond? 138 00:08:37,250 --> 00:08:38,250 I resigned. 139 00:08:38,669 --> 00:08:39,669 Why? 140 00:08:39,929 --> 00:08:41,890 I felt as though I had been violated. 141 00:08:42,750 --> 00:08:43,750 I have nothing further. 142 00:08:46,079 --> 00:08:49,560 Mrs. Wheaton, at the time that you and Mr. Ferris were having your affair, you 143 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:53,740 knew that company policy forbade such relationships, did you not? Yes. And 144 00:08:53,740 --> 00:08:57,500 because of that, Mr. Ferris and I took great care to maintain a strict business 145 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:59,160 relationship while on the job. 146 00:08:59,380 --> 00:09:01,440 So you concealed the nature of your relationship? 147 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Scrupulously. It never disrupted our job performances, and I am certain Mr. 148 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,340 Bullen never would have known about it had he not been tapping our office 149 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:13,020 phones. You were also aware, were you not, that the company had a stated 150 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:15,100 of monitoring all business communications. 151 00:09:15,580 --> 00:09:17,040 These were not business communications. 152 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,140 These were private and personal. Except that they were conducted on the 153 00:09:21,140 --> 00:09:23,840 telephone and computer in your office, weren't they? 154 00:09:24,470 --> 00:09:28,730 Yes. And you were on actual notice that they weren't private. They told you you 155 00:09:28,730 --> 00:09:32,230 might be listened to. I wasn't told that men with cameras would be following me 156 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:33,270 to restaurants and hotels. 157 00:09:33,610 --> 00:09:36,950 Isn't it a fact that the places where you were followed and photographed were 158 00:09:36,950 --> 00:09:37,909 all public places? 159 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:42,430 My life is not public. What I do on my own time is my own business. Except for 160 00:09:42,430 --> 00:09:46,210 the fact that what you were doing on your own time was violative of an 161 00:09:46,210 --> 00:09:51,050 company policy, wasn't it? I gave him eight and a half hours a day, six days a 162 00:09:51,050 --> 00:09:53,370 week. I did not give him the right to spy on me. 163 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,560 I have nothing further. Or persecute me or judge me. 164 00:09:57,700 --> 00:09:59,760 Thank you, Mrs. Wheaton. You may step down. 165 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,240 I'm confused, Ms. Kelty. What about? 166 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:15,620 I am very much aware that we have some damaging personal information on Mrs. 167 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:18,000 Wheaton. You neglected to use it. Why? 168 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:21,870 The strength of our case lies in defending your legitimate business 169 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:24,950 not in tearing down the plaintiff. This woman is attacking the way I do 170 00:10:24,950 --> 00:10:28,850 business. I mean, I think we should fight back as vigorously as we can. If 171 00:10:28,850 --> 00:10:32,250 doesn't pertain to her employment, it's inadmissible. Unless we argue that Ms. 172 00:10:32,390 --> 00:10:35,610 Wheaton's personal conduct is inconsistent with Value Square's image. 173 00:10:35,930 --> 00:10:37,310 Hell, that's what we should be arguing. 174 00:10:37,870 --> 00:10:41,930 Look, I've promoted my stores as places where traditional American values are 175 00:10:41,930 --> 00:10:42,930 respected. 176 00:10:43,070 --> 00:10:44,790 Value square, square values. 177 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:46,550 Value, values, values. 178 00:10:46,890 --> 00:10:49,770 I built a business on values, and I want that out there. 179 00:10:50,070 --> 00:10:53,970 And that, my dear ladies, is why I'm sitting in the courtroom personally. 180 00:10:54,410 --> 00:10:58,690 Mr. Bullen, I've got 15 years litigation experience, and I'm telling you that if 181 00:10:58,690 --> 00:11:01,910 I go in there and start braying about values, we will lose. 182 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:05,110 I think as long as you are sitting in the courtroom, you'd rather that we won. 183 00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:10,150 Now, in response to your inquiry, Mr. 184 00:11:10,430 --> 00:11:14,160 Brackman, What I did was as follows. I conducted background checks on all of 185 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,880 your employees. Then I began a process of screening all of the building's 186 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,240 maintenance and janitorial staff, which have access to these offices. 187 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:22,880 You screen the cleaning people? 188 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,360 I screen everyone who comes through that door. 189 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,600 I love this. 190 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,820 I've designed a record retention and refuse disposal system, which I believe 191 00:11:31,820 --> 00:11:35,110 is... Appropriate for the firm. Color coding indicates trash, which is 192 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:38,870 particularly sensitive. This is shredded and disposed of at alternate sites. 193 00:11:39,150 --> 00:11:41,970 I've swept the office and phone system for any listening devices. 194 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:47,370 I've removed any list of home phone numbers and addresses from non -secure 195 00:11:47,370 --> 00:11:51,150 office files. In addition, I've begun installation of a safe room. What is a 196 00:11:51,150 --> 00:11:53,430 safe room? Very simply put, it is a room. 197 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:57,890 It could be a bathroom. It could be a closet. It could be an office. This is 198 00:11:57,890 --> 00:12:00,130 room your employees go to when they are under attack. 199 00:12:00,370 --> 00:12:01,450 Attack? What kind of attack? 200 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:05,090 It could be from a variety of sources. It could be a disgruntled ex -employee. 201 00:12:05,090 --> 00:12:08,050 It could be an individual who's aggrieved about an illegal matter you're 202 00:12:08,050 --> 00:12:12,010 involved with. An embittered spouse, psychotic adversary, an obsessed 203 00:12:12,010 --> 00:12:14,910 not to mention the usual random acts of violence devoid of motive. 204 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:18,810 What makes this room safe in the event of such an attack? 205 00:12:19,210 --> 00:12:20,210 Primarily the door. 206 00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:25,850 We use an oversized steel pocket door. This is held closed by an electromagnet, 207 00:12:25,850 --> 00:12:29,650 which is designed to resist any level of force which may be applied against it, 208 00:12:29,650 --> 00:12:30,650 including explosives. 209 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:34,450 My God, you think those sorts of precautions are necessary? This is a law 210 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:35,490 not the Pentagon. 211 00:12:35,530 --> 00:12:39,730 Hey, Leland, my philosophy on the issue of security, let's err on the side of 212 00:12:39,730 --> 00:12:41,230 caution. Let's be too safe. 213 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:44,890 I'd sure as hell rather that than in the interest of not seeming foolish or 214 00:12:44,890 --> 00:12:46,930 fearful, finding out that we're not safe enough. 215 00:12:47,310 --> 00:12:49,770 You were right, Leland. It was the Bentley. 216 00:12:51,250 --> 00:12:52,310 Tell him about the Bentley. 217 00:12:53,339 --> 00:12:56,540 Arnold spoke to me about feeling that this was a more overt and extreme 218 00:12:56,540 --> 00:13:00,320 expression of affluence than his Porsche had been. He's fearful of becoming a 219 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,900 target for any predatory individual who may seek to rob or kidnap him. He enjoys 220 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:08,980 owning the vehicle and does not desire to drive anything less conspicuous, so I 221 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:11,860 advised him that for a fairly reasonable amount of money, we could equip it with 222 00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:13,140 bulletproof glass and doors. 223 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:16,480 Did you do that? It's secure to NATO level three. 224 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:18,160 You've gone mad, Arnold. 225 00:13:18,820 --> 00:13:19,980 Gordon doesn't think so. 226 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,320 Gentlemen, I don't know about you. 227 00:13:21,980 --> 00:13:24,920 But the way I look at the world, the state of readiness is nothing more than 228 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,260 prudent response to circumstances. 229 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,200 I think you should plead guilty to aiding and abetting and not guilty to 230 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,860 conspiracy. Is that possible? 231 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:37,300 Sure, it's possible. 232 00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:40,420 You recognize the error of your ways. 233 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:44,560 We attribute it to your youth, to the times. Then we line up a whole series of 234 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,620 character witnesses who will harp on the fact that you've been a solid citizen 235 00:13:47,620 --> 00:13:48,620 for over 20 years. 236 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,440 Faith, what do you think? 237 00:13:50,890 --> 00:13:51,890 You know what I think. 238 00:13:52,890 --> 00:13:56,310 Would you like to tell Stuart and Mr. Rollins what you think? 239 00:13:57,410 --> 00:14:02,790 What I think is that Barry did nothing wrong. The United States government, and 240 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:07,310 in particular the prison authorities, were engaged in a campaign of systematic 241 00:14:07,310 --> 00:14:11,730 extermination of the Black Panther Party. He acted to save a man's life. 242 00:14:11,950 --> 00:14:14,010 Okay, can we prove that? Well, we can try, Stuart. 243 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:18,930 And I think that if we harp on that, maybe there's a chance he'll get off 244 00:14:18,930 --> 00:14:22,410 altogether. A very little chance. And he won't have to apologize for what he 245 00:14:22,410 --> 00:14:25,830 did. Faith, let's not predicate our entire defense on whether he has to 246 00:14:25,830 --> 00:14:30,230 apologize or not. Why not? Because we have to do what we have to do. If 247 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:33,290 apologizing means he's going to get a more lenient sentence, we'll apologize. 248 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:35,310 Stuart, it's not just an apology. 249 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:40,430 It's a denial of the legitimacy of everything I believe in. Jonathan, would 250 00:14:40,430 --> 00:14:43,210 explain to them the pitfalls of turning this into a political trial? 251 00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:47,890 Well, we risk alienating the jury, angering the judge, and if we lose, we 252 00:14:47,890 --> 00:14:48,890 much stiffer sentence. 253 00:14:49,130 --> 00:14:53,870 On the other hand, if we can prove that Horace Washington's life was in jeopardy 254 00:14:53,870 --> 00:14:57,410 because he was a Black Panther, we can also claim that there was a legal 255 00:14:57,410 --> 00:14:59,830 justification for aiding and abetting his escape attempt. 256 00:15:00,170 --> 00:15:02,790 Except we can't prove that his life was in jeopardy. How do you know? 257 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:05,490 Oh, excuse me, you're right. I don't know. 258 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,580 But my judgment tells me that it's highly unlikely. 259 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,820 My judgment tells me that this is an extremely stupid risk to take. And I am 260 00:15:13,820 --> 00:15:16,880 dumbfounded that as an attorney you would be willing to even consider it. If 261 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,980 there is a way that he can walk out of this free and clear, my inclination is 262 00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:22,700 take it. Barry, hear me. I think this is utterly insane. 263 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,000 The prison guard was killed. 264 00:15:25,340 --> 00:15:26,340 Mr. Rollins. 265 00:15:26,510 --> 00:15:30,230 Since, as I understand it, you'll be the one trying this case, I would like to 266 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:33,810 know if you are willing to defend my husband in the manner in which he wants 267 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:34,569 be defended. 268 00:15:34,570 --> 00:15:37,330 Well, Stuart's absolutely right that this is a long shot. 269 00:15:37,850 --> 00:15:40,390 As long as you understand that, I'm willing to see where the evidence leads. 270 00:15:40,630 --> 00:15:44,310 If we can build a credible case that Horace Washington's life was in danger, 271 00:15:44,430 --> 00:15:46,710 then, yeah, I'm willing to go to court with that. 272 00:15:51,790 --> 00:15:52,790 Mr. Collins? 273 00:15:53,270 --> 00:15:57,270 Let's redo the office and telephone system sweeps. We may want to double 274 00:15:57,270 --> 00:15:59,030 these panels. Let's check the electrical conduit. 275 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:03,150 New computer. Hey, what's going on? Mr. McKenzie, I spoke to you yesterday about 276 00:16:03,150 --> 00:16:04,930 the need to scrutinize your janitorial personnel. 277 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:06,330 This is the reason why. 278 00:16:06,850 --> 00:16:08,650 What's the reason why? Who are these people? 279 00:16:08,850 --> 00:16:12,110 This individual, for the price of uniform, gained access to your offices. 280 00:16:12,330 --> 00:16:13,390 He was found in your file room. 281 00:16:14,090 --> 00:16:17,510 In point of fact, he's not a janitor. He's a private investigator hired by 282 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:19,910 Bullen to obtain background information on your firm. 283 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,040 How did you manage to find that out? 284 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:24,960 We obtained a list of all janitorial personnel. 285 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,560 When my operative asked him to identify himself, he provided a name that was not 286 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,900 on this list. Once he did that, we investigated further. 287 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,520 I don't know about you, Leland, but I'd rather like having this gentleman 288 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,520 working for us. 289 00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:44,720 Mr. Boland, why do you conduct investigations on your employees? 290 00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:47,040 Because it makes good business sense. 291 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:52,520 Since we've been doing it, we've reduced employee theft by 65%. On -the -job 292 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,140 drug and alcohol abuse has been reduced by half. Why the policy of prohibiting 293 00:16:57,140 --> 00:16:59,060 co -workers from becoming romantically involved? 294 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,800 These relationships frequently deteriorate into quote -unquote sexual 295 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,800 type situations. 296 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,700 How did you learn that Mrs. Wheaton was having an affair with her assistant 297 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:13,240 manager? Through routine monitoring of office communications, both on the phone 298 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,339 and on the computer. 299 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,000 A practice which, I may say, we make no secret of. Why did you have your 300 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,380 investigators conduct surveillance on Mrs. Wheaton's behavior off the job? 301 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:27,040 of all, the surveillance was conducted in an entirely legal manner. 302 00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:30,000 The reason we had to do it was that Mrs. 303 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,400 Wheaton's personal behavior suggested that she could pose a serious threat to 304 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:34,979 the company. 305 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:37,700 How so? She deceived us, and she deceived her husband. 306 00:17:38,460 --> 00:17:42,440 Now, this indicates to me that Mrs. Wheaton is fundamentally dishonest, not 307 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,100 necessarily the kind of person you would want overseeing millions of dollars' 308 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:50,620 worth of merchandise. In addition, every Value Square employee is expected to 309 00:17:50,620 --> 00:17:55,940 reflect company values, traditional family values, a love of country. Thank 310 00:17:55,940 --> 00:17:57,720 Mr. Bullen. I have nothing further. I'm not through. 311 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,160 Miss Kelsey? 312 00:18:00,660 --> 00:18:01,660 Nothing further. 313 00:18:08,189 --> 00:18:11,710 Mr. Bullen, do you believe adultery is immoral? 314 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:15,410 Objection! I'd like to answer that, if I may. You may not, sir. 315 00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:16,870 Objection sustained. 316 00:18:16,970 --> 00:18:20,430 Mr. Bullen, am I correct in understanding that you think the fact 317 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:25,390 Mrs. Wheaton a paycheck entitled you to monitor whom she associated with, ate 318 00:18:25,390 --> 00:18:27,490 with, and slept with on her own time? 319 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:28,690 You're the lawyer, sir. 320 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,620 But I think legally I have the right to monitor employee activities which affect 321 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:37,880 business, whether those activities are conducted on the job or off. Do you have 322 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,540 any evidence whatsoever that Mrs. Wheaton's personal relationship with Mr. 323 00:18:41,660 --> 00:18:43,920 Ferris in any way affected her job performance? 324 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,200 No, but it could have. Mr. Bullen, you mentioned that you believe your 325 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,080 are obligated to reflect company values, traditional family values. Is that 326 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,620 right? That's right. Do you monitor your employees' behavior as a means of 327 00:18:56,620 --> 00:18:58,480 enforcing? Your moral vision? 328 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,000 Objection. I do what I can to maintain the highest standards of honesty and 329 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,340 integrity among my employees. 330 00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:08,100 And I'm not ashamed to say that. And that's why you conducted this invasive 331 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:12,700 surveillance into Mrs. Wheaton's personal life, isn't it? It was not 332 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:16,160 thought she was a threat to business. It was because you thought she was a loose 333 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,140 woman who needed to be yanked into line. It was both. 334 00:19:19,380 --> 00:19:21,380 Thank you, Mr. Bullen. I have no further questions. 335 00:19:28,910 --> 00:19:32,870 Sorry to keep you waiting. No problem. Barry Glassman, formerly Jay Ellison. 336 00:19:33,070 --> 00:19:37,190 My attorney, Jonathan Rollins. This is Franklin Hogan. Very pleased to meet 337 00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:40,890 I understand you wanted to talk about the old days. 338 00:19:41,210 --> 00:19:42,630 The old days are upon me. 339 00:19:44,110 --> 00:19:48,570 So it seems. We thought your perspective would be very valuable to us. My 340 00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:51,230 perspective or my testimony? 341 00:19:51,570 --> 00:19:56,290 Both. You know, I saw you speak at a rally in Oakland once. You were... 342 00:19:57,289 --> 00:19:58,289 Truly incredible. 343 00:19:58,330 --> 00:20:01,690 I'm glad you liked it. We were also hoping that you could provide us with 344 00:20:01,690 --> 00:20:03,170 names of other potential witnesses. 345 00:20:03,530 --> 00:20:04,790 Why did you think to call me? 346 00:20:04,990 --> 00:20:09,130 Why? Yeah, why? You don't know me. You know some things about me, but we have 347 00:20:09,130 --> 00:20:14,070 personal knowledge of one another. Why did you think you could call on me for 348 00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:19,210 anything? I was involved in the same struggle you were involved in. And now, 349 00:20:19,210 --> 00:20:20,169 I need your help. 350 00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:23,270 We also felt that since we're planning on making this into a political trial, 351 00:20:23,450 --> 00:20:24,470 you might want to participate. 352 00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:25,950 I don't. 353 00:20:26,270 --> 00:20:30,190 No, see, we'd be putting the policies of the United States government on trial. 354 00:20:30,770 --> 00:20:34,350 COINTELPRO, the assassinations of Fred Hampton, Mark Clark. 355 00:20:34,810 --> 00:20:36,490 Potentially all of this would be relevant. 356 00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:40,050 We don't know how much the judge will let in, but our intention is to mount a 357 00:20:40,050 --> 00:20:43,670 defense based on the lives of Black Panthers being in danger. And I wish you 358 00:20:43,670 --> 00:20:48,690 best of luck, but as I said before, I have no interest in participating. If 359 00:20:48,690 --> 00:20:51,010 don't mind me asking, what is it that you're worried about? 360 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:55,510 I'm worried about being identified as a black path. I'm worried about the effect 361 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:57,070 that it will have on my employer. 362 00:20:57,770 --> 00:21:01,890 I'm worried about people coming back into my life who I would rather not come 363 00:21:01,890 --> 00:21:02,890 back into my life. 364 00:21:02,990 --> 00:21:05,690 Are you going to tell me I shouldn't be worried about those things? Are you 365 00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:08,490 going to tell me that I owe it to your client because we were involved in the 366 00:21:08,490 --> 00:21:09,490 same struggle? 367 00:21:11,330 --> 00:21:14,890 All right, look, you asked if I was willing to testify. I said I wasn't. 368 00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:18,230 really is nothing more to say on that subject. Only that if you're not willing 369 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:19,290 to testify voluntarily... 370 00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:21,630 You should expect to be subpoenaed. 371 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:24,710 I put in my time, gentlemen. 372 00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:28,250 I served nine and one half years in a federal penitentiary. 373 00:21:28,770 --> 00:21:32,030 Whatever your problem is, it's your problem. I'm telling you, I don't want 374 00:21:32,030 --> 00:21:33,570 dragged into it. I can't help that. 375 00:21:34,690 --> 00:21:35,750 Get out of my office. 376 00:21:49,130 --> 00:21:52,310 You want me to sit second chair to Jane Halliday? This isn't personal, Anne. 377 00:21:52,450 --> 00:21:55,470 Carl simply feels that Jane has a better grasp of the issues. 378 00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:58,890 Then Carl is an idiot, and if you let Jane take over this case, you're a 379 00:21:58,890 --> 00:22:01,910 idiot. I know this is difficult for you. It's only natural that you'd want to 380 00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:02,809 protect your turf. 381 00:22:02,810 --> 00:22:05,530 This isn't about turf, Douglas. This is about losing the case. 382 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:08,270 We're not going to keep this guy as a client if we don't win. 383 00:22:08,490 --> 00:22:12,030 As managing partner, I have a responsibility to protect the client's 384 00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:16,150 the client wants Jane. The client wants someone he can control so that he can 385 00:22:16,150 --> 00:22:18,890 use this trial to promote his Neanderthal social philosophy. 386 00:22:19,150 --> 00:22:21,790 What he needs is someone to protect him from himself. 387 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:25,090 Are you sure you're not letting your personal feelings cloud your 388 00:22:25,090 --> 00:22:28,350 judgment? What does that mean? You've had a jaundiced view of Jane from the 389 00:22:28,350 --> 00:22:31,450 start. You wouldn't be suffering from QBS, would you? 390 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:33,930 QBS? Queen Bee Syndrome. 391 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:35,230 Hmm? 392 00:22:41,380 --> 00:22:42,380 Carl. 393 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Leland. Can we expect any more clandestine attempts to infiltrate our 394 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,760 staff? I'll have you know that you guys are the only ones who have ever 395 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,320 intercepted one of my covert operatives. I'm very impressed. 396 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,920 But you haven't answered my question. You sound a bit testy for a man who is 397 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,180 defending my right to conduct these investigations. 398 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,480 How you manage your business is your business, but when you start snooping 399 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,600 around mine, that's a different story, and I won't tolerate it. I appreciate 400 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,600 your candor, Leland. 401 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:12,460 Now I'll be candid with you. 402 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Based on our background check, we are very secure in doing business with 403 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,060 Mackenzie Brackman, although some of your colleagues are, shall we say, a bit 404 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:25,520 too colorful for my taste. I take that to mean that you're done. 405 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,780 You have my word on it. 406 00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:41,880 Tell us, Ms. Wheaton, during your interview for store manager, were you 407 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,880 that Value Square had an interest in maintaining high moral standards among 408 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,440 executives? Yes, I was. 409 00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:50,580 And when asked about your own moral character, how did you respond? 410 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,200 I said I considered myself a moral person. 411 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:56,020 Were you having an extramarital affair at that time? 412 00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:58,440 Objection. Overruled. Witness may answer. 413 00:23:58,740 --> 00:23:59,800 No, I was not. 414 00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:03,220 You did, however, have an affair while you were working at Value Square. 415 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:07,700 Yes. At the time that you were conducting the affair, were you living 416 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:08,700 with your husband? 417 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:12,800 Yes. We were trying to work things out. Tell us, Miss Wheaton, in December of 418 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,520 1992, did you go to the Women's Health Clinic for the purpose of aborting an 419 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,700 unwanted pregnancy? What? 420 00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:19,560 Objection! That is totally irrelevant! 421 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,560 I believe I'm entitled to explore the plaintiff's character, Your Honor. Only 422 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,620 insofar as it affects her work, Miss Halliday. 423 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,040 The objection sustained. 424 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:30,240 Did it affect your work to find that you were pregnant, Miss Wheaton? 425 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:32,740 Objection. I wasn't pregnant very long. 426 00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:36,240 Did having an abortion as a means of getting rid of an inconvenient pregnancy 427 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,400 affect your work? 428 00:24:37,780 --> 00:24:40,520 Objection. Sustained. I agonized over that decision. 429 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:45,100 I was 39 years old. I desperately wanted to have a baby. You stated that you 430 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,420 were a moral person. Miss Halliday. 431 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Adultery, promiscuity, aborting a baby conceived while sleeping around. 432 00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:53,580 Objection. Are these examples of what it means to you to be moral? Miss 433 00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:55,340 Halliday, one more word. 434 00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:56,940 and I'll hold you in contempt. 435 00:24:57,260 --> 00:24:58,820 Miss Whedon, you may step down. 436 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,240 I'm instructing the jury to disregard defense counsel's questions. They are in 437 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,040 no way relevant to this case. 438 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,340 I don't know what you're trying to accomplish, Counselor, but let me tell 439 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:11,480 find your conduct in this courtroom to be highly unprofessional as well as 440 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,880 personally reprehensible. If I have to declare a mistrial, believe me, I will 441 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,060 hold you in contempt. 442 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,340 In the interest of trying to avoid that, I suggest strongly that you change your 443 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:22,980 approach. Yes, Your Honor. 444 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:25,870 Courts in recess. 445 00:25:42,530 --> 00:25:49,450 I need 446 00:25:49,450 --> 00:25:50,450 for you to do the summation. 447 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:53,830 Why? Were you unhappy with some aspect of your performance yesterday? 448 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,320 I think that both the judge and the jury perceive me in a fairly unsympathetic 449 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,320 light. 450 00:26:01,140 --> 00:26:03,380 Consequently, I think I'm probably no longer effective. 451 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:05,880 You weren't effective to begin with. Maybe not. 452 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,640 The truth is, you don't know enough to know when you're being effective. 453 00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:11,980 You told a client what he wanted to hear, and then you patted yourself on 454 00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:14,040 back because he agreed with you. Look, I made a mistake. 455 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:18,680 I was humiliated for it in open court. I am asking you to try and contain the 456 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,880 damage that's been done. If you have to take your pound of flesh, go ahead and 457 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,559 take it. 458 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,920 I don't want a pound of flesh, Jane. I just want to win this case. 459 00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:28,260 Toward that end, you bet your ass I'll do the summation. 460 00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:35,020 Lighting pocket door. 461 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,580 Electromagnetic locking system. 462 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,860 Cellular phone will stash in there. 463 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,360 And your toilet. 464 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:45,600 In the event of an attack, you retreat in here, call for help, and wait. 465 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,700 Is it all right to use the space for other things when we're not under 466 00:26:49,540 --> 00:26:50,540 Absolutely. 467 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,060 Has the world really changed this much? 468 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,960 What do you mean? I mean we've been in business here for over 40 years. 469 00:26:57,180 --> 00:27:01,500 No one's ever thought of installing a safe room or doing background checks on 470 00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:03,940 the cleaning people or any of this. 471 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,400 Did we need to do it before? 472 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Probably not. So why do we need to do it now? Because the world has changed that 473 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,640 much, and our capability of neutralizing those who would do us harm must change 474 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,199 with it. 475 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,440 This door will be fully operational by the end of business Friday. I would not 476 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,480 advise using it before then. 477 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,900 Let's just hope we don't find ourselves under attack before then. 478 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,860 I assume you're being sarcastic. 479 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,980 Yeah. If you're genuinely concerned, there are some alternatives we can 480 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:28,900 consider. That really is not necessary. 481 00:27:29,980 --> 00:27:35,640 For 15 years, Leslie Wheaton was a conscientious employee of Value Square 482 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,260 Stores. She was loyal to her employer. 483 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,440 She trusted her employer. 484 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Now, Leslie Wheaton has done absolutely nothing against the law. She has never 485 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,620 once let her private life interfere with her professional responsibilities. 486 00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:49,440 Yet her phones were tapped. 487 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,460 Her email monitored? A private investigator sent to follow her every 488 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,800 And Value Square says that because they told her this was company policy, that 489 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,800 makes it all okay. 490 00:28:01,540 --> 00:28:06,620 Well, ladies and gentlemen, that does not make it all okay. 491 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,180 By their intrusive surveillance techniques, Value Square has clearly 492 00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:19,100 Leslie Wheaton's privacy, and in so doing, have caused her enormous 493 00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:20,260 distress. 494 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Now, most of us, we spend the majority of our time at work and our employer is 495 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,160 entitled to our full commitment during work hours, but they are not entitled to 496 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,280 invade the privacy of the few hours that we have left. 497 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:42,360 They are not entitled to decide whom we sleep with, how we spend our free time, 498 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,560 and most importantly, how we choose to live our lives. 499 00:28:54,510 --> 00:28:57,150 Nobody likes the idea of someone spying on them. 500 00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:01,550 If a stranger listened in on our phone conversations, we'd be outraged, and 501 00:29:01,550 --> 00:29:02,550 rightfully so. 502 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:07,210 The difference here is that Value Square wasn't a stranger. Value Square was 503 00:29:07,210 --> 00:29:08,390 Leslie Wheaton's employer. 504 00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:11,010 And that makes all the difference in the world. 505 00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:15,910 It is a well -settled point of law that employers have the right to monitor 506 00:29:15,910 --> 00:29:20,690 their employees at work, whether that means telephone calls, email, or 507 00:29:20,690 --> 00:29:23,870 observation. What Value Square did was legal. Now. 508 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:25,960 You might well ask, was it necessary? 509 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,020 I'd like you to imagine for a moment that you are value square. 510 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,920 You employ over 20 ,000 people. 511 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,140 Legally and financially, you are responsible for what each and every one 512 00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:39,900 does while he or she is working for you. 513 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,980 Carl Bullen did what anyone who runs a company that size has to do. 514 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:47,140 He set up a code of conduct. 515 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,320 He told his employees what it was. 516 00:29:49,850 --> 00:29:53,350 He told them what he would do to enforce it, and he told them that he expected 517 00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:54,930 everyone to abide by it. 518 00:29:55,170 --> 00:29:59,770 Now, if Leslie Wheaton found any part of that objectionable, she had a very 519 00:29:59,770 --> 00:30:03,150 simple and a very effective alternative. She could have worked for someone else. 520 00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:06,430 She chose to work for Carl Bullen. 521 00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:12,370 She's not entitled to be compensated because he did what he's entitled to do. 522 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:27,860 So, in the event of an attack, this is where you go. 523 00:30:28,180 --> 00:30:29,440 What kind of an attack? 524 00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:30,660 Any kind of an attack. 525 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:37,400 At the first sign of engagement, you come in here, slide the door shut, throw 526 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,820 the switch, which activates the electromagnet. 527 00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:43,080 We are now secure. 528 00:30:43,780 --> 00:30:46,560 I thought the first sign of engagement is usually a shot. 529 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:49,780 Not necessarily. From what Gordon says, there are any number of incidents where 530 00:30:49,780 --> 00:30:52,160 somebody shows up and waits quite a while before turning violent. 531 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,140 Well, I guess I'll have to have the receptionist. So all the lawyers tiptoed 532 00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:57,840 hiding here, huh? You go ahead and laugh. 533 00:30:58,060 --> 00:31:00,720 But the truth is, attorneys are on the front lines of potentially violent 534 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,960 conflicts every day. 535 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,780 Clients hire us to be gunslingers. Their enemies become our enemies. 536 00:31:06,140 --> 00:31:08,840 Look, Arlen, you've convinced me, but I gotta go home. So can you open the door? 537 00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:10,080 I just want to say one more thing. 538 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,690 What? These measures aren't just to protect the attorneys. They're to 539 00:31:13,690 --> 00:31:14,890 everyone who works here. 540 00:31:15,670 --> 00:31:20,370 I'm just as concerned for your safety as I am about my own. Well, I love you for 541 00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:22,850 it. Now, open the door. I want to go, okay? All right. 542 00:31:29,290 --> 00:31:30,290 What's wrong? 543 00:31:32,030 --> 00:31:33,550 The door appears to be stuck. 544 00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:34,810 What do you mean it's stuck? 545 00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:35,930 I can't get it open. 546 00:31:36,410 --> 00:31:38,070 Maybe somebody can open it from the outside. 547 00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:41,450 Hello? Hello? 548 00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:44,210 Hello? Hello? 549 00:31:45,890 --> 00:31:46,890 Hello? 550 00:31:47,270 --> 00:31:48,490 Open the door! 551 00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:54,250 What about the cleaning people? There are no cleaning people. 552 00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:57,990 Gordon didn't want any cleaning people coming in until he could do background 553 00:31:57,990 --> 00:32:00,490 checks on them. Oh, that's just great. Is there a phone here? 554 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:06,670 That's right. There's supposed to be a cellular phone somewhere, which they 555 00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:08,830 apparently have not put in yet! 556 00:32:11,050 --> 00:32:13,590 So what are you telling me? We have to stay here till tomorrow morning? I guess 557 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:14,590 so. 558 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:20,090 You'll have to admit, it's an occasion, not without opportunity. 559 00:32:24,750 --> 00:32:25,750 Yeah. 560 00:32:28,510 --> 00:32:29,510 Let me call you back. 561 00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:35,090 You here with a subpoena? 562 00:32:35,650 --> 00:32:39,330 No, no, my client doesn't want to serve you with a subpoena. He wants to... 563 00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:40,909 Respect your wishes. 564 00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:43,330 And you weren't able to talk him out of that? 565 00:32:43,730 --> 00:32:45,270 As a matter of fact, I wasn't. 566 00:32:45,530 --> 00:32:47,870 You're going to get your name in the papers on this one, aren't you? 567 00:32:48,330 --> 00:32:49,269 I might. 568 00:32:49,270 --> 00:32:51,470 Ain't no might about it. Do you think that's important? 569 00:32:51,810 --> 00:32:55,730 You think it's important? You know that you've really got yourself a hot case. 570 00:32:56,890 --> 00:32:59,990 The Black Panther Party's about due for a revival now, don't you think? 571 00:33:00,290 --> 00:33:04,350 It must be the 20th or 25th anniversary of something. 572 00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:11,410 We'll see black leather jackets and berets in the stores, and you'll be 573 00:33:11,410 --> 00:33:15,550 in on all of it. You know, Mr. Hovey, I understand your desire to stay out of 574 00:33:15,550 --> 00:33:16,449 this. 575 00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:20,250 What I would ask you to understand is that I'm representing my client the same 576 00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:22,210 way I'm sure you want your lawyer to represent you. 577 00:33:22,430 --> 00:33:26,890 I also think since my name is going to be in the newspapers, you might as well 578 00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:28,110 be there for doing something useful. 579 00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:43,890 Always get frightened when I'm up at this hour. 580 00:33:44,430 --> 00:33:46,790 What's there to be frightened of? We're in a safe room. 581 00:33:47,670 --> 00:33:50,890 Safe room protects you from other people. It doesn't protect you from 582 00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:55,190 Why don't we just get as comfortable as we possibly can? You can lie over there 583 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:56,510 and I'm going to lie over here. 584 00:33:56,790 --> 00:33:58,450 Maybe we can get some sleep. 585 00:33:59,210 --> 00:34:02,670 And then in the morning somebody will come and let us out. 586 00:34:05,370 --> 00:34:08,550 Denise, do you mind talking for a while? 587 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:10,830 Just a little while. 588 00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:12,540 Sure. 589 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:20,060 The only way I have of bridging the abyss, so to speak, is to swaddle myself 590 00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:26,159 human contact to stave off the realization of one's own mortality, 591 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:33,199 one's insignificance, the difficulty of establishing 592 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,300 intimacy, the impossibility of maintaining it. 593 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,199 I don't know about mortality and insignificance, but I thought as far as 594 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,699 intimacy was concerned, you did okay in that department. 595 00:34:46,179 --> 00:34:47,560 I used to think I did. 596 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,260 I used to validate my very existence by the endless conquest of women. 597 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,080 Beautiful women. 598 00:34:56,460 --> 00:34:57,460 Models. 599 00:34:58,300 --> 00:34:59,320 Playboy playmates. 600 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Movie star. 601 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,680 I'm not going to say who it is, but I once went to bed with a very famous 602 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,540 star. She was nominated for an Academy Award. 603 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:10,320 She's on the cover of a different magazine every month. 604 00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:14,280 She's a very, very famous movie star. Okay, okay, Arnold. 605 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,520 I get it already. 606 00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:17,420 The point is, it didn't matter. 607 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:22,380 I'm alone, and I'm desperately unhappy. 608 00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:25,460 Are you? 609 00:35:34,410 --> 00:35:36,610 People are always so shocked to hear me say that. 610 00:35:36,910 --> 00:35:38,290 You're alone and you're scared. 611 00:35:39,210 --> 00:35:42,630 And the truth is, at 3 o 'clock in the morning, all the things that you own, 612 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:45,510 clothes, the house, the Bentley, they don't even matter. 613 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:49,450 No, they don't. Being a big -shot lawyer, that doesn't matter. 614 00:35:49,730 --> 00:35:52,870 No. And all the women you slept with, they don't matter either. 615 00:35:56,910 --> 00:35:57,990 What does matter? 616 00:35:58,410 --> 00:36:03,130 What matters is having someone to hold you and talk to you and lull you back to 617 00:36:03,130 --> 00:36:04,130 sleep. 618 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,580 What matters is loving and trusting a person enough to survive 3 o 'clock in 619 00:36:09,580 --> 00:36:10,580 morning. 620 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,600 You see right through me, don't you? 621 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Yeah, I do. 622 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,240 I have to tell you something, Denise. 623 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,560 What? 624 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,040 I think you could be that person for me. 625 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,840 You could talk to me and hold me and lull me back to sleep. 626 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,340 I could love and trust you. 627 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:40,328 Stand clear. 628 00:36:40,330 --> 00:36:41,810 Clear, clear, clear. 629 00:36:45,390 --> 00:36:47,450 I believe I told you this door was not yet functional. 630 00:36:48,110 --> 00:36:49,230 Oh, thank God. 631 00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:52,890 How did you know that we were in here? No doubt you're unaware of it, but 632 00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:55,670 there's a microphone and a transmitter in here in the event that a person's 633 00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:59,550 inside or incapacitated or the cellular phone is inoperable. Wait a second. 634 00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:04,910 You just heard everything we said in here. I myself did not. The members of 635 00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:07,210 staff who monitored the frequency, they would have. 636 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,540 You'll excuse me. I have to get to rearming this door. 637 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,100 Hi, Gordon. 638 00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:14,020 Thank God he showed up, huh? 639 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,740 Denise. What? 640 00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:17,600 What about what I just said? 641 00:37:18,460 --> 00:37:19,600 What? What? 642 00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:23,400 What I said about you being the one. 643 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,980 Me? Forget about it. 644 00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:35,940 Members of the jury, have you reached a verdict? 645 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:41,330 We have, Your Honor. What say you? In the matter of Wheaton v. Value Square, 646 00:37:41,330 --> 00:37:45,050 the issue of the intentional infliction of emotional distress, we fine for the 647 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:49,670 defendant. On the issue of invasion of privacy, we fine for the plaintiff and 648 00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:51,210 award the sum of $1. 649 00:37:52,690 --> 00:37:54,170 Well, my thanks to the jury. 650 00:37:54,490 --> 00:37:55,490 We're adjourned. 651 00:37:58,990 --> 00:38:00,990 Ms. Kelsey, I want to thank you. 652 00:38:01,230 --> 00:38:03,010 You're very welcome. I'm glad it worked out. 653 00:38:03,370 --> 00:38:04,510 No thanks to me, right? 654 00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:07,450 Lawyers and clients don't always see eye to eye. 655 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:11,810 Well, I hope you'll accept my apology and my business. I'd like to put 656 00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:14,170 Brackman on a permanent retainer. Great. 657 00:38:15,310 --> 00:38:17,170 Miss Halliday, could I speak to you for a moment? 658 00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:19,270 I'll see you back at the office. 659 00:38:21,250 --> 00:38:23,090 I also owe you an apology. 660 00:38:23,550 --> 00:38:24,550 Not necessary. 661 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:26,430 Well, I believe it is necessary. 662 00:38:27,110 --> 00:38:31,690 My going to Douglas Brackman put you in an awkward position with your firm. I 663 00:38:31,690 --> 00:38:33,030 wasn't thinking about you. 664 00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:35,340 I should have been thinking. about you. 665 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,780 Thank you for saying that. You're an excellent attorney, Miss Halliday. 666 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,120 I hope it's possible that we can work together again. Given that you've 667 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,940 our firm, I'm sure it is possible. 668 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:50,460 I know this is out of the blue, but I'm doing business in Dallas this weekend, 669 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,180 and I was hoping you might accompany me. 670 00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:54,140 This weekend? 671 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,060 Yes, we could take the company jet and stay in my condo at Turtle Creek. 672 00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,880 You know what? 673 00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:04,140 I can't this weekend, but maybe one of our other attorneys is available. Let me 674 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:08,420 find out. Jane, it's your particular point of view I need. 675 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,440 It's you I want. 676 00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:15,900 Mr. Bullen, you're a married man, and I am your attorney. That means taking care 677 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:19,220 of legal matters. So I'm going to forget that we ever had this conversation. I 678 00:39:19,220 --> 00:39:22,460 sincerely hope that you will do the same. I think you misunderstood me. I 679 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:23,460 understood you perfectly. 680 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,940 Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to work. 681 00:39:32,190 --> 00:39:33,190 Yeah, come in. 682 00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:36,830 Mr. Obey. 683 00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:40,690 Can I talk with you for a minute? Sure, sure. 684 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:47,890 You can't imagine what the world outside looks like after you've been to prison. 685 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:53,450 The simplest things, driving a car, going to the store, playing with your 686 00:39:53,950 --> 00:39:56,090 What I used to dream about when I was in prison. 687 00:39:57,070 --> 00:39:58,150 Not very political. 688 00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:59,710 Pretty human, though. 689 00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:02,560 How much do you know about Horace Washington? 690 00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:07,780 Just what I've read. He started out being just another hoodlum and 691 00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:12,600 himself into one of the smartest, bravest men I've ever known. 692 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,240 Do you believe his life was in danger? If you were a member of the Black 693 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,860 Party, your life was in danger. That's the given. Did prison authorities do 694 00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:23,080 anything to make that danger imminent? Did they threaten him in any way? 695 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,120 The prison authorities murdered him, okay? They wiped him out. However they 696 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,060 it look about him escaping, whatever they may have said about him carrying a 697 00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:34,040 gun, they murdered him. Will you help me prove that? 698 00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:39,480 You were right about me treating you disrespectfully. 699 00:40:41,980 --> 00:40:45,520 You have a just cause. As far as I know, you're an honorable man. 700 00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:48,980 If nothing else, you should be treated with respect. 701 00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:50,980 I apologize. 702 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:52,320 Your apology is accepted. 703 00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:57,020 I've been very careful since I got out of prison. 704 00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,920 I go to work in the morning. I come home at night. 705 00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:03,940 I don't make any noise. I don't associate with anyone I used to know. 706 00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:10,240 It's like I made this deal in my mind that as long as I didn't make anyone mad 707 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,580 at me, they'd leave me alone. 708 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,760 I'd be allowed to hold on to whatever it is that I have. 709 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,580 You want me to testify, Mr. Rollins? 710 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,638 Yes, I do. 711 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,340 Because no one ever got hurt for standing up and speaking the truth, 712 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:36,380 You tell me where and when you want me to show up. 713 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,360 I'll be there. 714 00:41:49,460 --> 00:41:51,220 If you have a minute, come in. 715 00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:02,460 After you left in the court hallway, Carl Bullen propositioned me. 716 00:42:02,780 --> 00:42:03,779 Did he? 717 00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:07,740 Said he was looking forward to our working together and asked me to go to 718 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:08,780 with him for the weekend. 719 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,100 I guess old Carl's not as much of a believer in family values as he says he 720 00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:16,360 You'll understand if I don't appear to be all that shocked. 721 00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:17,980 I never saw it coming. 722 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,860 There's no reason you should have. 723 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,280 I'm sure I've confirmed your worst suspicions about me and Christian women 724 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,200 general. We've all misjudged people. 725 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,380 I don't want you to think that I don't know what it's like being a young 726 00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:32,540 attorney starting a career. 727 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,420 What it's like being a young woman attorney. 728 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,320 I don't want you to think you're all alone here. 729 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,600 Because you're not. 730 00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:43,300 We don't have to be enemies, do we, Anne? 731 00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:44,860 No, we don't. 732 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,480 I'm glad. 733 00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:03,540 You're gifted. 734 00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:07,860 What do you mean? Oh, I mean you trifled with me and you did it brilliantly. 735 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:10,100 I don't know what you're referring to. 736 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:11,300 You led me on. 737 00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:15,180 You invited me to reveal more and more of myself. You said all the right 738 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,660 And then you crushed me like a bug. Oh, gee, I'm so sorry. Oh, no, it's quite 739 00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:21,220 all right. You inspired me. 740 00:43:21,580 --> 00:43:23,440 I learned from the experience. 741 00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:25,940 Some damn would do the same thing to someone else. 742 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,540 How are the kids holding up? 743 00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:36,218 They're okay. 744 00:43:36,220 --> 00:43:39,520 I think Josh is actually pretty impressed. His old man tried to bust 745 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,520 out of jail. 746 00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:42,520 How long have you known about him? 747 00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:47,180 I've known a long time. I'm one of the people he hid out with in Paris. 748 00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:48,920 How did he come to hide out with you? 749 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,840 He was an underground. I was part of it. 750 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,740 People we knew contacted us, told us he would be coming. 751 00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:58,920 Though the first time I saw him, I thought he was just an American tourist. 752 00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:01,680 She fell in love the minute she laid eyes on you. 753 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,320 I don't think so. 754 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,300 So Frank Hovey is willing to testify, you know. Yes, I know. I think that's 755 00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:10,300 great. 756 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,339 I hope so. 757 00:44:11,340 --> 00:44:12,340 You sound dubious. 758 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,760 Well, you know how I feel about it, Faith. I think it's risky to make this 759 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,140 be about the Black Panther Party. 760 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,660 That's not what we're doing, Stuart. 761 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,640 Hovey was in the same cell block as Horace Washington. 762 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,880 He's in a position to testify that Washington's life was in danger. 763 00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:25,939 Yeah, okay. 764 00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:28,960 But if we start getting into a lot of rhetoric, it's going to hurt us. 765 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,640 You know, I've got to ask you guys something. 766 00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:34,050 Are you worried that being involved in this case is going to hurt business? 767 00:44:34,510 --> 00:44:38,470 What? I mean, we've been friends a long time, Ann. Let's be honest with each 768 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:39,690 other. Wait a minute, Faye. 769 00:44:39,970 --> 00:44:43,550 What makes you think that we're concerned about that? When I hear that 770 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:47,750 representing people like Carl Bullen, it makes me wonder about the politics of 771 00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:51,310 your firm. My representation of Carl Bullen has nothing to do with politics. 772 00:44:51,610 --> 00:44:52,610 Come on, Ann. 773 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,380 He contributes to every right -wing cause on the map. 774 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,520 Yeah, but she's not representing him in any of his right -wing causes. She's 775 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,240 representing him in an employment dispute. 776 00:45:01,540 --> 00:45:04,820 Stuart, I think it's safe to say that Carl Bowen wouldn't be crazy about the 777 00:45:04,820 --> 00:45:06,140 idea of you representing me. 778 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,060 What if he did? What if he did? I'd tell him what I'll tell you. It's not your 779 00:45:10,060 --> 00:45:13,160 concern. You're getting a little defensive, aren't you? Am I? 780 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,040 Maybe I don't like having our commitment to you questioned. 781 00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:19,940 Maybe I don't like having to submit to a political consciousness test because of 782 00:45:19,940 --> 00:45:20,940 the clients I represent. 783 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,480 Well, forgive me, Ann. 784 00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:27,750 But I can't be all that concerned about your delicate sensibilities. Your firm 785 00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:31,750 is representing my husband. I have to be concerned about your commitment. If I 786 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:35,070 were a lawyer, I know what the degree of my commitment would be. But then again, 787 00:45:35,210 --> 00:45:39,610 if I were a lawyer, I wouldn't be representing Carl Bullen. Well, you're 788 00:45:39,610 --> 00:45:42,070 lawyer, Faith, and you weren't asked to represent him. 789 00:45:44,170 --> 00:45:49,070 I think we should steer clear of politics as a topic of conversation. 790 00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:50,650 Yeah, right. 791 00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:53,350 The prosecutor thinks I'm radical. 792 00:45:54,010 --> 00:45:55,730 They don't think that we're radical enough. 793 00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:59,050 Yeah, I think we should definitely steer clear of politics. 794 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:01,870 How is everything? 795 00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:03,710 Everything's fine.